Richard 3:1 I am not talking about a new religion here. I was joking when I told you to pray to me in the comments. In my experience religion does not handle humour very well. Let me stress that Scientia IS NOT A GOD. Scientia is a name for how our universe started. It is time to replace the word religion with empathy. Religion started in times when people were trying to find answers for things that they didn't understand. Remember The Sun God? Do I really need to explain further?
Richard 3:2 I have noticed that commenters like to quote class names that were used in a Catholic school in the 1960s and what they might have learnt in those classes. It is time to let those thoughts go. It is time to let the Catholic church go. It is time to find your own balance in this life and stop looking for a crutch. Morals do not come from a god. They come from practising things that do the most good for the most amount of people. Things that can ease unnecessary suffering. If I dent my neighbour's car, I take responsibility for my mistake. I don't shoot guns at other people, even if I dislike what they preach.
Ah women and men.
Not sure how factual all this is. So you are saying that the ancients were stupid? There is a name for doing what benefits the most. That philosophy has flaws. If morals don't come from God how do you know what you ought to do? Why do you respect a line of people and not jump ahead. Why do you open a door for an elderly person or lady?
RispondiEliminaThere is no god. Get over it.
EliminaNo Christian one anyway.
EliminaThe idea that "what benefits the most is good" is rooted in utilitarianism, an ethical theory that aims to maximize overall happiness or well-being. However, this concept has several flaws:
RispondiElimina- *Measuring Happiness*: Utilitarianism relies heavily on quantifying happiness or benefits, which can be subjective and difficult to measure accurately. Different people may have varying perspectives on what constitutes happiness, making it challenging to determine the best course of action.
- *Ignoring Individual Rights*: The theory prioritizes the greater good over individual rights and interests. This can lead to situations where the majority benefits at the expense of a minority, potentially resulting in injustice or exploitation.
- *Potential for Morally Questionable Actions*: Utilitarianism may justify morally questionable actions if they lead to greater overall happiness. For instance, sacrificing one person to save multiple people might be deemed acceptable under this theory, which raises concerns about individual dignity and human rights.
- *Alienation from Personal Relationships*: The theory's emphasis on maximizing overall happiness can lead to alienation from personal relationships and loved ones. Individuals may feel forced to prioritize the greater good over their own relationships and interests.
- *Justice and Fairness*: Utilitarianism can struggle with issues of justice and fairness, particularly when the distribution of benefits and costs is unequal. This can result in some individuals or groups bearing a disproportionate burden for the sake of the greater good.
- *Predicting Consequences*: Accurately predicting the consequences of actions is crucial in utilitarianism. However, this can be challenging, and unforeseen outcomes may lead to more harm than good.
- *Problem of Partiality*: Utilitarianism requires impartiality, which can be difficult to achieve in practice. Individuals may struggle to prioritize the greater good over their own biases and interests.
Some potential variations of utilitarianism attempt to address these flaws, such as:
- *Rule Utilitarianism*: Focuses on moral rules that promote the greatest happiness, rather than individual actions. This approach can provide more stability and predictability in moral decision-making.
- *Two-Level Utilitarianism*: Combines the benefits of act and rule utilitarianism by considering both individual actions and general moral rules.
Ultimately, while utilitarianism can provide a useful framework for evaluating moral decisions, its limitations highlight the complexity of making decisions that balance individual interests with the greater good.[¹](https://iep.utm.edu/util-a-r/) [²](https://www.scu.edu/ethics/ethics-resources/ethical-decision-making/calculating-consequences-the-utilitarian-approach/)
AI?
RispondiEliminaNowhere in there did you mention the word empathy. That's the key word. Brother Benedict never used that word in his entire life.
RispondiEliminaThough he did often think, "I want to touch that cock!"
RispondiEliminaThe idea that morals had to come from God is rooted in various philosophical, religious, and cultural perspectives. Some arguments for this notion include:
RispondiElimina- *Divine Command Theory*: This theory posits that moral principles are derived from the commands of a divine being, such as God. According to this view, morality is based on the will of God, and actions are considered right or wrong because they align with or contradict God's commands.
- *Objective Morality*: Some argue that God provides an objective basis for morality, meaning that moral principles are not subjective or relative, but rather grounded in the nature or will of God. This perspective suggests that without God, morality would be arbitrary or based on personal preference.
- *Accountability and Enforcement*: The concept of God as a moral legislator can provide a sense of accountability and enforcement, as individuals may believe that God rewards good behavior and punishes bad behavior. This can motivate people to act morally and adhere to certain principles.
- *Cultural and Historical Significance*: Many cultures and historical societies have tied morality to religious beliefs, with divine command or revelation serving as the foundation for moral principles. This has shaped the development of moral codes and ethical systems throughout human history.
- *Addressing Moral Skepticism*: Some argue that without God, moral skepticism arises, and it becomes challenging to justify why certain actions are inherently right or wrong. The existence of God can provide a basis for moral objectivity and address concerns about moral relativism.
However, there are also arguments against the idea that morals had to come from God:
- *Secular Ethics and Humanism*: Many secular ethical systems, such as humanism, argue that morality can be grounded in human reason, empathy, and the well-being of individuals and society. These systems often prioritize human dignity, rights, and the greater good without relying on divine authority.
- *Moral Intuition and Reason*: Some philosophers argue that humans have an innate moral sense or intuition that guides our understanding of right and wrong. This perspective suggests that morality can be based on human reason and reflection, rather than divine revelation.
- *Cultural and Historical Variability*: Moral principles and values have varied across cultures and historical periods, which challenges the idea that morality is fixed or derived solely from divine command. This variability highlights the complexity and nuance of human moral experience.
- *The Euthyphro Dilemma*: This classic philosophical problem questions whether actions are good because God commands them or if God commands them because they are good. If actions are good solely because God commands them, morality becomes arbitrary. If God commands them because they are good, then morality exists independently of God's will.
Ultimately, the relationship between morality and God is complex and debated among philosophers, theologians, and scholars. Different perspectives offer varying insights into the nature of morality and its potential sources.
Someone has been busy with their copying this morning.
Elimina"Ultimately, the relationship between morality and God is complex and debated among philosophers, theologians, and scholars."
So, no god, no morals?
Sounds like bullshit to me.
The concept of empathy is based on the idea that one can see life from another's perspective. It is implicit in Christ's teachings. "Love others as you love yourself". That some people do not display empathy in no way reflects on any organization they may belong to. Often lack of it suggests mental disorder.
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Elimina"Love others as you love yourself"
Like call them wankers you mean?
It is implicit in Christ's teachings. "Love others as you love yourself but send a lot of them to Hell."
RispondiEliminaWhat a great morning it was for AI!
RispondiEliminaNot a great morning for expressing your own thoughts.
But truth triumphed.
RispondiEliminaThanks. I thought I did well.
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