sabato 19 ottobre 2024

Proof.

 Good morning.

I thought I'd start with a nice picture.

Around these parts Rob's blog seems to be very popular and is building up more comments than any other blog. His latest post 'Prove it!' already has 15 comments.

This post starts off with, "Generally proof is required when contradicting an accepted belief. Atheism is not the status quo and never has been." What he's saying is that, for human beings, having a god is the accepted thing and thinking that there is no god is a bit weird. I got an Uber home from Wellington last night. I always like to chat to the driver because it's a half hour ride. The driver was Indian and told me that there are over 1,000 worshipped gods in India. I don't remember how the topic of gods came up and I haven't researched it online. If that is true, it means there is quite a bit of competition for being the one true god.

The word 'belief' seems to always pop up when talking about religion. Catholics, for example, seem confident that they have proof for the existence of their god. They tell us that this god is made up of three people. I don't think that any of them are female, though the Holy Ghost could be.*

I looked up the definition of the word 'belief' online. I got three 'answers'.

1) An acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without proof.
2) Something one accepts as true or real; a firmly held opinion.
3) A religious conviction.

I have quite often asked Catholics for proof of their god's existence. I have been told many things. Often they refer me to the Bible as proof. Sometimes I'm told that a lot of people saw Jesus ascend to Heaven after the crucifixion. They sometimes quote miracles that have happened.
Did God write, or inspire the Bible? I don't think so. Anyway, there is no proof.
Obviously there are no photos of Jesus ascending into Heaven. We are reliant on what people from about 2,000 years ago might have written down or told someone else. I've heard that the Bible was written about two or three hundred years after Jesus buggered off. If that is true, information would have to have been passed on by written statements or passed on mouth to mouth. Over that time period it wouldn't be hard for things to get a bit muddled up.

Okay, fair enough, there are other things that have been passed down to us, like 'tempering' that took place in European music around 1750. I guess the fact that tempering is used today by most of the world to make chords work and scales sound the same in twelve different keys is proof of its existence.

Here's a score that I bought in 1971.
We studied it at university.


Anyway, I'd be interested in comments that can show me that there is proof of the Christian god. 
Keep your comments concise and to the point - no big flowery words please. You shouldn't need to use AI. 

Ciao.





* I doubt it though.

6 commenti:

THE CURMUDGEON ha detto...

Scientists follow the scientific method, within which theories must be verifiable by physical experiment. The majority of prominent conceptions of God explicitly or effectively posit a being whose existence is not testable either by proof or disproof.... oh. I just noticed that you don't want any big flowery words. Sorry.
The answer then is no.

Anonimo ha detto...

What does that mean?

RBB

Second fiddle ha detto...

He's right. We can deduce the existence of God but there is no experimental method that can be replicated to 'prove' His existence to satisfy scientists. But what about the proof that is used in a court of law that allows for reasonable doubt?

Anonimo ha detto...

Reasonable doubt is not a proof. It just means that there is not enough evidence to come to a conclusion.

RBB

THE CURMUDGEON ha detto...

You're wrong. We cannot 'deduce' the existence of god. There's no logical conclusion that any gods exist. What's wrong with you man?

Second fiddle ha detto...

ok I got that wrong.